Today in Reading The Wheel of Time, it’s the first two chapters of New Spring! As expected, starting the prequel novel has been an absolute delight.
I adore Lan and Moiraine, and seeing them like this feels like discovering that an actor you love was in some movie years before the one that made them famous. I just keep squealing to myself that “they’re babies” like some fanboy on tumblr. But they are babies, is the thing, and it’s fascinating seeing them in this context. More grown up and experienced than the Emond’s Fielders were when we first met them, of course. But struggling with some of the same things. Moiraine with her temper, for example. Or Lan with encountering people and customs that don’t meet his personal standards. We already know some of the story we’re about to read, and we already know the kind of people they are, but there is still something very exciting about seeing them in this state. As Doctor Who once put it, they aren’t done yet.
New Spring opens with Lan contemplating a cold, snowy night camp and considering the dangers of fighting Aiel, both in daylight and in the night. He’s making a round of the camp, trudging through the snow to check on the sentries at their posts. As he walks, he rests his hand on the hilt of his sword, made long before the Breaking of the World. The blade that had once been the sword of the Malkier kings.
He comes upon the next sentry, a Domani who Lan recognizes though he can’t make out his face behind his helmet. The man is asleep on a tree, and he starts awake and insists that he was only resting for a moment. Lan suggests that he might be better off without the temptation of the tree so near.
The sentry takes up a better pose, peering into the darkness and shifting his feet occasionally to stave off frostbite, and Lan thinks about the rumors that Aes Sedai are offering Healing somewhere off closer to the river. But it’s best to avoid Aes Sedai unless absolutely necessary.
Years later you could find one of them had tied strings to you just in case she might have need. Aes Sedai thought far ahead, and seldom seemed to care who they used in their schemes or how. That was one reason Lan avoided them.
Moving on, Lan wonders how long the sentry’s energy will last. Every man under his command is exhausted from battle, and there has been little time for rest the past few days. He finds more men asleep on guard, finally coming across an old campaigner named Jaim who is asleep standing up with his eyes open. Lan threatens to tell Jaim’s friends if he’s caught sleeping again, which has Jaim hastily promising that he won’t be.
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Lan finds himself chuckling as he continues his rounds. There’s no point in worrying about things he can’t change, be it men drowsing at their posts or death itself. Then he raises his voice, calling out to his friend Bukama to ask why he’s been following him. Most people would not have noticed the faint sound of Bukama’s footsteps in the snow, but he was one of Lan’s teachers, and had taught him to always be aware of his surroundings.
Bukama emerges from the trees, complaining that he was watching Lan’s back and accusing him of not taking enough care not to have his throat slit in the dark by one “of these black-veiled Aiel Darkfriends.”
Lan notes that Bukama’s Malkieri helmet doesn’t bear a crest, and wishes that the man would care a little more about his rights. Bukama is one of the twenty men who carried Lan to safety as an infant when Malkier fell, and one of only five who survived the journey. Those five raised and trained Lan, and Bukama is now the only one left alive. Lan notes the man’s strong body and bearing, and the braided leather cord that holds his hair back.
Few men still wore the hadori. Lan did. He would die wearing it, and go into the ground wearing that and nothing else. If there was anyone to bury him where he died. He glanced north, toward his distant home. Most people would have thought it a strange place to call home, but he had felt the pull of it ever since he came south.
Lan asks if Bukama really still believes that the Aiel are pledged to the Dark One. He himself only came to this fight because he believed that; the Aiel had certainly seemed like a horde of Darkfriends when they suddenly spilled over the Spine of the World and burned the great city and ravaged the nation of Cairhien. In the two years since they’ve fought their way through Tear and then Andor before reaching the plains outside of Tar Valon.
There is no memory of the Aiel leaving the Waste, unless the Aes Sedai have some secret record lost to the rest of the world. And everyone can see the Dark One’s hand in the Breaking of the World, the Trolloc Wars, and the War of a Hundred Years that had ended Hawkwing’s empire and his life. Now almost exactly a thousand years later the Aiel came, and it seems like it must be some kind of pattern. Lan had come South because he believed the Dark One was directing this attack. He no longer believes that, but he has given his word to stay until the end, and Bukama is the one who taught him that a man’s word should be as good as an oath sworn before the Light.
They’re starting through the snow again when the sound of a horse brings them up sharply. The Aiel don’t ride, so Lan knows that this lone horseman must be a messenger, and probably not bringing good news. He quickly sees that the horse and rider are Tairen, recognizing the style of helm and also the scent of roses that the wind carries before him “and only Tairens were fool enough to wear scent, as if the Aiel had no noses.”
The messenger, a low ranking officer, delivers his message curtly, reporting that Lord Emares and his armsmen are following a group of Aiel who, strangely enough, are heading east away from the river. Lord Emares wants Lan to place an anvil on the ridgeline called the Hook, so that they can trap the Aiel between a hammer and anvil.
Lan’s mouth tightened. Some of these southlanders had peculiar notions of polite behavior. Not dismounting before he spoke, not naming himself. As a guest, he should have named himself first. Now Lan could not without sounding boastful. The fellow had failed even to offer his lord’s compliments or good wishes.
Lan also feels like the man had implied that they did not know that east would be away from the river, though he supposes that could be a figure of speech. He tells the man that he and his men will be at the Hook by first light, and sends Bukama to wake the men. He’s further angered when the messenger instructs him to ride hard and implies Lord Emares’ displeasure.
Lan forms an image of a flame in his mind, and feeds his emotions into it.
After years of practice, achieving ko’di, the oneness, needed less than a heartbeat. Thought and his own body grew distant, but in this state he became one with the ground beneath his feet, one with the night, with the sword he would not use on this mannerless fool.
He tells the messenger that he always does what he says he will do, and holds onto the ko’di for a moment after the man has ridden off, to be sure that his emotions are under control. Then he returns to the camp, which is bustling with the activity of preparing to ride out. They are mostly Saldaeans and Kandori, and some Domani; some Malkieri had come south but Lan refuses to lead them. Bukama rides with him, but Lan is not his leader.
Lan’s half-trained war horse, Cat Dancer, is brought to him, and Lan checks the girth before taking the horse’s reins. Bukama grumbles about the possibility of Emares being late before Lan gives the order to mount.
Lan keeps a careful eye on the rolling plain with its occasional copse of trees, wary of Aiel ambushes, but they make it to the Hook, a treeless crest only about forty feet high, without incident. Lan arranges his men and notes the White Tower in the distance, as well as the monstrous bulk of Dragonmount.
Higher above the clouds than most mountains were below, its broken peak always emitted a streamer of smoke. A symbol of hope and despair. A mountain of prophecy. Glancing at it, Bukama made another sign against evil. No one wanted that prophecy fulfilled. But it would be, of course, one day.
Lan’s men drive their spears into the ground and ready their bows and arrows, while Lan considers how the Aiel will attack, the various ways the battle might go, and what will happen if Emares is late.
The Aiel arrive just before the sun, running through the snow in a column. Lan uses a Cairhienin-made looking glass to observe them as they make their way closer, apparently unfazed by the horsemen waiting on the ridge. Trumpets sound from the west, somewhere near the river, as more and more Aiel come out of the trees. Lan realizes that either someone has miscounted, or the original company of Aiel has been joined by others.
“Embrace death,” Bukama muttered, sounding like cold steel, and Lan heard other Borderlanders echo the words. He merely thought them; it was enough. Death came for every man eventually, and seldom where or when he expected. Of course, some men died in their beds, but from boyhood Lan had known he would not.
The last of the Aiel emerge out of the trees, over two thousand of them. It’s easily enough to overrun Lan’s forces and also deal with Emares, but Lan gave his word to be there so he holds his ground, knowing that if Emares arrives the combined force of the hammer and anvil might be enough to allow them to get away from the Aiel. Then a leader raises his spear and brings it down, bringing the column to a halt. The rear half turn to face back towards the trees, and Lan assumes they are aware of Emares’s attack.
The other Aiel seem to be shading their eyes to look at the horsemen on the ridge, though Lan can’t think that they can see much. Then a man in the front raises his spear and all the others do the same, the ones in the back turning to face forward again. The spears come down, and the Aiel shout “Aan’allein!”
Lan is surprised to hear them speaking the Old Tongue, and though he translates the word to mean “One Man Alone” he can’t think of what it might mean. Then the Aiel column starts moving again, turning north to go around the ridge. Lan is astonished, and some of the soldiers express disappointment, but he decides to wait and have a “polite” talk with Emares.
He also wants to know what the trumpets meant, and has a feeling that this day will have more strangeness to offer him.
Meanwhile, Moiraine and Siuan stand at attention in the Amyrlin’s sitting room. There is a fire in the hearth on the other end of the room, but where the two Accepted are standing they are hit with icy drafts from the windows behind them. Moiraine is freezing and trying to control shivering, but she and Siuan were told by the Amyrlin to stand there and not bother anyone, so the two Accepted are doing just that. Worse than the cold, though, is the smell of smoke from the villages around Tar Valon being burned.
She wanted to know how the battle was going. She had a right to know. Her uncle had started this war. She certainly did not excuse the Aiel in the slightest for the destruction they had brought to Cairhien, city and nation, but she knew where the ultimate blame lay.
Since the Aiel arrived, however, Accepted have been confined to the Tower grounds, and any time Moiraine has asked for news she has been admonished for getting distracted from her studies. She knows she can’t be involved in what’s going on, but she wants to be.
She notes that the two Aes Sedai in the room, with their serene and ageless faces, don’t seem troubled either by the cold or the smoke. Even though Tamra and Gitara have only napped since the fighting began, neither seems tired, and of course the cold and heat don’t touch sisters the way they do other people; Moiraine can’t work out how the trick of ignoring it works, but she knows that it doesn’t involve the One Power.
Moiraine studies Tamra, the Amyrlin Seat, and Gitara, her Keeper of Chronicles. She thinks about the power these women wield, about the just and kind nature of Tamra and the flamboyant personality of Gitara. She also reflects on the rumors that Gitara is over three hundred years old, and the fact that she has the Foretelling, the Talent of speaking the future.
There has been gossip among the Accepted that Gitara has had more than one Foretelling in the last few months, that the army around Tar Valon had been in place to meet the Aiel attack because of her. None of them know the truth of such rumors, but Moiraine hopes that one day she’ll be present when Gitara has a Foretelling.
It occurs to Moiraine that Gitara has been working on the same letter for hours now, and that Tamra hasn’t turned a page of her book in about the same amount of time. She wonders what has the Aes Sedai so worried and preoccupied, and begins trying to reason it out, turning over the various possibilities to do with the battle and wondering if Gitara had a Foretelling that something would happen on the third day. She catches Siuan watching her, grinning. She whispers that they will find out when they find out, and her infectious smile quickly has Moiraine grinning as well.
Siuan has the gift of making Moiraine smile when she’s upset, and Moiraine reflects on how surprising it had been when they’d become friends. But despite being very different in some ways, they also have a lot in common, including having both been born with the spark. But while Moiraine was born wealthy and was celebrated for having the ability to channel, Siuan had been born poor in Tear, where channeling was outlawed.
Among other things, Siuan had come to the Tower in full control of her temper, she was quick with puzzles, which Moiraine was not, she could not abide horses, which Moiraine loved, and she learned at a rate that left Moiraine dazed.
Moiraine was educated as a noblewoman, but Siuan had arrived at the Tower barely able to read, and now is teaching the novice’s beginner classes in the Old Tongue. Not that Moiraine is any slouch—she and Siuan both finished their novice training in three years, which is a record only one other novice has every achieved. Elaida a’Roihan also completed her Accepted training in three years, which is another record and one that Siuan and Moiraine might very well achieve as well.
Then the sound of trumpets, hundreds of them, draws Tamra’s attention, and she instructs Moiraine to go see if there is any news of the battle and Siuan to make tea, and hurry up about it. Moiraine knows that any news would have already been brought in, but one doesn’t argue with the Amyrlin or point out that she’s made a mistake.
Siuan channels to heat the water for tea—normally using saidar for tasks is frowned upon, but the Amyrlin did say quickly—and Moiraine goes into the antechamber where she finds a novice named Elin Warrel reading a collection of love stories.
The Tower Library was the largest in the known world, containing copies of almost every book that had ever been printed, but this was unsuitable for a novice. Accepted were granted a little leeway—by that time, you knew that you would watch a husband age and die, and your children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren, while you changed not at all—but novices were quietly discouraged from thinking about men or love, and kept away from men entirely.
Engrossed in her book, Elin doesn’t notice Moiraine come in until Moiraine tells her that she should find more appropriate reading material. Elin gasps and jumps to her feet, assuring Moiraine that no one could come in without her noticing and that Merean Sedai said that she could read. She asks why the book is inappropriate, but Moiraine doesn’t much care to get into that, and instead picks up the book Elin has dropped and remarks that the librarians won’t be pleased to have it returned damaged. She’s pleased at how much she sounds like a full sister.
She asks if there have been any messages from the battlefield, and Elin answers indignantly that she would have brought them in right away. Moiraine knows she would have, but only points out that it isn’t the proper response. She tells Elin to go back to her reading, then goes back into the other room, where Siuan hands her a cup of tea to take over to Gitara. Moiraine does so just as the clock chimes. She can still hear the trumpets calling, and they seem to sound frantic to her ears.
Moiraine is just offering Gitara her tea when the Keeper suddenly jerks to her feet, knocking over the inkwell on the table and standing rigid, staring terror-stricken over Moiraine’s head.
“He is born again!” Gitara cried. “I feel him! The Dragon takes his first breath on the slope of Dragonmount! He is coming! He is coming! Light help us! Light help the world! He lies in the snow and cries like the thunder! He burns like the sun!”
Then she gives a soft gasp and collapses into Moiraine’s arms, who drops the teacup and is born to the ground by the weight of the other woman. Tamra is at their side already embracing saidar, but she doesn’t use it on the Keeper. There is nothing to Heal.
Moiraine finds herself noting the way the spilled ink is obliterating whatever Gitara was writing, and the fact that the teacups that she and Siuan have both dropped did not break, and thinks about the odd things the mind notices when it is trying not to think about something.
“Not now, Gitara,” Tamra breathed softly. She sounded weary to the bone. “Not now, when I need you most.”
She addresses both Siuan and Moiraine, confirming that they both understand what Gitara just Foretold. She commands them both not to tell anyone, ordering them to lie if necessary, even to a sister. Moiraine is shocked—they haven’t yet been raised and are still capable of lying, but she had never imagined being ordered to do so. Tamra instructs them to send Elin in and go, and repeats her command not to tell anyone what they’ve heard.
I wished to hear a Foretelling, Moiraine thought as she made her final curtsy before leaving, and what I received was a Foretelling of doom. Now, she wished very much that she had been more careful of what she wished for.
I know that the title “The Hook” is a reference to the ridge where Lan stations his men as the anvil, but I keep thinking of that Blues Traveler song of the same name. And the Hook is definitely bringing me back, friends.
There are so many interesting little details that remind me of moments in the other five books I’ve read so far. Having just visited Cairhien for the first time in The Fires of Heaven, it was really fun to see Lan judge them for their battle tactics, or use a Cairhienin looking glass to observe the Aiel column. Even the hammer and anvil technique came up in The Fires of Heaven, when Rand had Lan lead Mat into a discussion about battle tactics to gauge his strange new expertise.
It was also interesting to note how much both Lan and Moiraine reminded me of Nynaeve in these chapters. The fact that the three share a lot of traits was apparent in the other novels as well; Lan and Moiraine don’t have a romantic relationship but it’s clear that Lan’s devotion to Moiraine is predicated on an admiration of her fiery strength, her stubbornness, and deep, abiding compassion for others. Which is also the foundation of his love for Nynaeve. And I remember back in The Great Hunt when Lan and Moiraine talked about how they met. Even then, the whole throwing each other in ponds thing felt very like Nynaeve, especially as Moiraine apparently responded to a single indignity with days of retaliatory torment for Lan. That is an extremely Nynaeve-esque move. As much as she claimed it was just to be sure of her safety around such a big, powerful man, I’m quite sure it was also Moiraine holding a grudge.
Her belief that she has a right to know what’s going on in the battle also reminded me of Nynaeve. Elayne too, a bit, but while Elayne intends to take her mother’s throne one day, Moiraine is taking the traditional Aes Sedai path. I don’t think she intends to go back to the Cairhien court after she’s raised or anything like that. Although now that I type it, I have to ask myself why I assume so. Maybe that is exactly what Moiraine intended. Aes Sedai often become advisors to rulers, after all, and we know that Cairhien holds them in high esteem. I am probably letting my knowledge of Moiraine’s future color my reading of her here. She and Siuan have not yet dedicated their lives to hunting for and guiding the Dragon Reborn.
In any case, Moiraine’s indignation at being told that the war her uncle started is a distraction to her studies reminds me of Nynaeve. Egwene doesn’t appear to worry too often about any responsibility to Emond’s Field, and Elayne seems to have a pretty clear dividing line in her mind about when she’s acting as future Aes Sedai and when she is carrying herself as as the Daughter-Heir of Andor. Most of the time anyway. But Nynaeve struggles to stop thinking of herself as a Wisdom, struggles to let go of the duty she feels towards that role, and seeing that in Moiraine—that inability to accept the rules of the Tower that make the outside world nothing more than a distraction to her for as long as it takes for her to gain the shawl—was a really interesting experience.
But it’s not just a connection to home that we’re seeing here. There is also Moiraine’s strong sense of justice—the kind of justice that will lead her to choose to join the Blue Ajah. She is aware that the war is Laman’s fault, even though it does not excuse the Aiel’s retaliation. I think perhaps it is not only a “right” that Moiraine feels towards the war, but a duty as well.
But as I said, Lan also reminded me of Nynaeve in his chapter, especially when he was affronted by the messenger’s lack of courtesy. We see a temper in Lan here; yes, he has learned to control it, but it’s more than we see in the Lan of the other novels, if only because he has yet to have any pov chapters of his own, as of the end of The Fires of Heaven. We also get the sense, though it isn’t explicitly stated, that the customs he expected the messenger to follow are Borderlander customs, not universal ones. This Lan is not the well-traveled Warder we know, one who has experienced the societies and customs of many nations. He can’t even believe that there’s a place in the world where it never snows, and it doesn’t seem to occur to him that Tear might have different rules or etiquette. I’ve remarked before on how difficult of a time Nynaeve has with the same concept; Egwene and Mat and Rand are all much more flexible when it comes to understanding the customs of new cultures, while Nynaeve is often stuck on the concept that the way she knows is more right and more civilized.
Not that the messenger isn’t rude, even if some of what Lan resents is a cultural difference. All the Tairen lords are though, from what we’ve seen of that nation.
I believe this is the first time we’ve been given a name, hadori, for Lan’s headband. There are lots of little details like that in Chapter One, including the information about the men who carried baby Lan out of Malkier. I like Bukama a lot, and he represents a concrete connection between Lan and his heritage: someone who actually lived in Malkier before it fell, who knew and spoke to his parents at least once, and who can impart not just Borderland training but actual Malkieri training and customs to Lan. I’m kind of worried that he’s going to die by the end of the book, a symbolic severing of this connection to Malkier as Lan’s main priority becomes service to Moiraine.
I was also struck by the statement that Lan has known since boyhood that he will never die in bed of old age. Not surprised, mind you, but it served to further reinforce my opinion that much of Lan’s life is marked by depression and hopelessness, which I talked about in last week’s essay.
It was pretty funny seeing him carry the same caution and suspicion towards the Aes Sedai that everyone else does, knowing how much that opinion will change by the time we meet him. And how much parts of it will begin to come back as he falls in love with Nynaeve and her loyalties, as Moiraine puts it to herself, become his as well. But seriously, the man has no idea how tied to Aes Sedai he’s going to end up!
As we know, Gitara is the same person whose Foretelling sent Tigraine into the Waste to become a Maiden, and I think it was also she who sent Tigraine’s brother Luc on some mysterious mission into the Blight. So she’s been mixed up with Rand’s fate for some time. I liked Gitara immediately. Her flashy dressing, the fact that she has a barely concealed devotion to her old Ajah even after becoming Keeper—she’s a real character and I would have liked to see more of her. Having her die after giving the Foretelling is a quick way to really drive home the seriousness and intensity of it, but it feels a bit cheap to me, to be honest.
And it’s not just Tigraine who’s down on the slopes of Dragonmount somewhere. Tam is there too, about to find the newborn Rand. I was reminded of him when Lan was using the flame-and-void trick, or ko’di, as he calls it. Tam was out there in the fighting around the mountain, possibly using the same trick in the same moment. Geographically and spiritually these men were so close, sharing a connection to the future that they couldn’t imagine any more readily than Moiraine could imagine how her wish to see a Foretelling might be fulfilled.
I’m always on about Jordan’s dramatic irony, but dang that was good. As was the moment when Bukama made the sign against evil towards Dragonmount and Lan thought about how no one wanted the prophecy of the mountain fulfilled, but that of course it would eventually be. Got some news for you Lan. Today is that day!
I think this is the first time we encounter the term Delving for the thing Aes Sedai do to see if someone needs Healing. I also noticed that Foretelling is referred to as a Talent, with a capital T, which seems to be the word used about special abilities that not every Aes Sedai can have. Healing and Dreaming have also been referred to using this term, I believe, and it’s interesting to see the distinction made between Talents and just being skilled in one of the Powers, or being a strong channeler in general. Anecdotally, most of the Aes Sedai we’ve seen so far with a Talent also seem to be strong in saidar in general, but it also seems to be true that a sister with less strength could have a Talent in something like Healing while a sister with more might not have that particularly ability at all.
But that whole stop-yourself-from-sweating thing has come up again, and I’m just confused. We have confirmation here that the trick is not related to the One Power, even though we’ve only ever seen Aes Sedai use it so far. But Siuan didn’t seem to be able do it anymore once she was stilled, so that doesn’t seem to track.
Ugh, it’s such a small thing but it’s really been bugging me. I blame Jordan for how tight his world building usually is. Seeming discrepancies seem more jarring. So I went back and looked at that section. Here it is, for reference:
Siuan told herself that she did not envy these women their ability to channel—she was past that, surely—but she did envy the way none of them perspired. Her own face was quite damp.
Technically this quote doesn’t say that the ability to channel is necessary to the not sweating, but it certainly implies that they are connected. The only thing I can think of is that it’s not directly connected. Maybe the reason Siuan can’t stop sweating is just because her position is more precarious. We know she has struggled with her temper more, as well as with hiding her fear. Perhaps what she is actually envying is the position of power and security that Sheriam and her fellow Aes Sedai have. The trick is a mental one, maybe, but Siuan has so little power and security now that she has to devote that energy to other things. If she still had the ability to channel she’d feel more secure, and be able to devote some brain space to stopping those sweat glands. Or keeping her body temperature down. Or whatever it is that the Aes Sedai are doing.
I wonder if any Aes Sedai know the flame and void trick. It would seem to be a similar technique in some ways, though not exactly the same. You’d still sweat in the void, you just wouldn’t feel it.
Well, I suppose this makes as much sense as any other theory. I’d be interested in yours though, dear readers, if you’ve thought of something (non-spoilery) that I missed. Please tweet it at me!
Next week we’ll cover Chapter Three and Four, in which we’ll see more of Siuan and Moiraine and more channeling. In the meantime, can we just take a moment to appreciate the opening line of New Spring? The first five novels (not counting prologues) all open with sweeping, Tolkien-like descriptions of wind driving across the land. But while New Spring also starts with a wind, it has one of those great snappy lines that would definitely catch your attention if you picked it up in a bookstore and only scanned the first page.
A cold wind gusted through the night, across the snow-covered land where men had been killing one another for the past three days.
Yes. This is a line that grabs me, well done Robert Jordan.
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The simplest answer about the no sweating trick is that Jordan retconned it. He was guilty of several retcons as he started to massively expand the scope of the series. Though he usually found clever ways to mask it.
I liked these beginning chapters of New Spring. Unfortunately, I found this book possessed the same flaws as mid-to-late series Jordan, in that it dragged on waaaay too much. The next few chapters I found especially tedious, up until Moiriane finally (finally!) leaves Tar Valon.
Morgase in this sentence should probably be edited to Moiraine:
“But while Morgase was born wealthy and was celebrated for having the ability to channel, Siuan had been born poor in Tear, where channeling was outlawed.”
While Morgase WAS born wealthy, she isn’t who was being talked about.
“Having just visited Cairhien for the first time in The Fires of Heaven”
Not our first time as we spend a good chunk there in the Great Hunt. Not sure if this is something the moderators might want to remind Sylas of.
Typo: “But while Morgase was born wealthy and was celebrated for having the ability to channel, Siuan had been born poor in Tear, where channeling was outlawed.”
Should be Moiraine, not Morgase.
Re: Siuan and the sweating/not: “Siuan told herself that she did not envy these women their ability to channel—she was past that, surely—but she did envy the way none of them perspired. Her own face was quite damp.” I always took this to mean that she and Leane had agreed beforehand that to better manipulate the Salidar Aes Sedai, they had to appear “beaten-down” and be careful not to remind them of how good they are at scheming. So she *could* ignore the heat with the mental trick, but feels she can’t right now. So she’s envious, even though she has the capability, because she doesn’t dare use the trick.
Is Sylas is going to learn about the connection between the oath rod and agelessness from this book instead of in the main series? I can’t remember the specifics.
Once again, I think the simple explanation makes the most sense, channellers all seem to believe that ignoring the heat has nothing to do with the power, but they’re simply wrong.
@1, personally I loved the chapters of everyday life in the White Tower. Admittedly that was because I really wanted this info for fanfiction. I keep wanting to give Lan a good shaking, which is very Nynaeve of me.
Frankly I doubt that not sweating is really a good idea, as somebody pointed out earlier sweating is a way of regulating one’s internal temperature, messing with that could be hazardous no matter how cool it makes you look.
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Is Sylas is going to learn about the connection between the oath rod and agelessness from this book instead of in the main series? I can’t remember the specifics.”
I think the Ageless look of Aes Sedai not being recognized as having to do with the one power is a mistake of the Aes Sedai themselves. We just don’t find out about it until Egwene puts two and two together in the Aiel Waste discovering the Aiel channelers. As Aes Sedai weren’t aware of Aiel Channelers at all. The same is discovered with the Windfinders and the Seachan channelers.
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Worse was 3rd Age Aes Sedai not realizing using the oath rod shortens their lifespans significantly. The oath rod wasn’t meant for finalizing induction as a full Aes Sedai. It was created by Age of Legends era Aes Sedai, was called a Binder, and was used to punish criminal One Power users. They were given a choice, severing or binding. Binding of course handcuffs your mind and takes half of your lifespan away and severing leaves you without your ability and suicidal. Both hard choices.
@9 I’m pretty sure they were asking about the specifics of who learns what in which book, not the details of the situation that we know.
All the capital-T Talents are related in a sense of either nudging or reading the Pattern somehow whether they involve channeling or not, or are performed by channelers or not. And a lot of them also seem mediated through the world of dreams in one way or another, treating it as a sort of transitional zone between multiverses (and simultaneously a place where the Power is sort of redundant). These things aren’t nearly as separate as in-book scholars make them out to be, and I think the implications there are pretty cool.
Which is why, in my mind, channeling weaves plays out to naturally be so intuitive, and specifically hard to duplicate mechanistically (like the second-learned weave thing, or “modern” reconstruction of Compulsion.) A lot of the weaving would be intent/will-based if it’s following tel’aran’rhiod rules to some extent, where this power from outside of space and time actually does respond to the vision and will of the beholder in the same sort of way that the space outside of space and time can be manipulated… the challenge is greater, but it’s also navigating the branching of multiverses in a more direct way, taking a hand in physical events that contravene physics. And I think this tracks in the positive-Talent direction too, with things like the older wise women revealing their natural aptitude for specific and localized Healing. Understanding the body and how you want it to change seems to be enough to direct the weaves once you have the generalities down, without the sort of specialized experimentation and hard-won knowledge that we see in the wide variety of modern technological (or, for that matter, herbal) medical treatments about how to make their chosen tool actually do that extremely wide range of extremely specific things. Also explains why strength and discovery of new weaves go hand in hand.
All that to say… it kinda makes sense to me that someone with the ability to channel, and thus the existing connection to the Pattern required to take some raw universal energy and manifest a bit of physics with it on demand, can also maybe just tell their own body “hey, cool it” and have it/the universe listen.
Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become… dry?
@10
Well yes, but what I was saying relates to whether there were retcons about the Ageless Look, which there weren’t. It merely seemed as much. That basically started this particular thread.The lesson learned is the characters themselves in the books many times were working with flawed knowledge. The Aes Sedai were actively teaching that the Ageless look hadn’t to do with the One Power when it was wholly caused by the One Power. They just never knew and didn’t have the information to to find out until Egwene went to the Wastes. Basically you can’t trust. EVERYTHING you read from the Characters themselves because many times they are working with flawed information.
We’ve known since Gitara was introduced in Moiraine’s story in TGH that she died upon giving the Foretelling of Rand’s birth; maybe it’s just reading it fully written-out that caused Sylas to react like he did?
ZEXXES @12:
Maybe I’m reading your comment wrong, but the above sentence at least seems to be exactly backward. The Aes Sedai believed that working with the One Power for sufficiently long caused the Ageless look, when it was really swearing the Oaths on the Oath Rod that did so. The Wise Ones, Windfinders, Kin, Forsaken, stilled Aes Sedai, etc., look younger than their years but don’t have the Ageless look:
Egwene recognizes Amys as having “…something very close to Aes Sedai agelessness” (TSR, Ch. 23)—note, in particular, that it is explicitly not the Ageless look.
Egwene observes that “Amico [post-stilling] looked young, perhaps younger than her years, but it was not quite the agelessness of Aes Sedai who had worked years with the One Power” (TSR, Ch. 5).
Elayne notices “Neither woman [of the Kin] had the agelessness despite their years of using the Power…” (WH, Ch. 8).
@8 I think that that makes it a very apt metaphor for the Aes Sedai perception of control in general, and their approach(es) to the Dragon Reborn in particular…
@@.-@ an @6 I believe not sweating is a simple mental trick but it only works for Channelers, aka passive use of One Power. Just as Aes Sedai can (spoilers: Ignore their Warders having sex, non-Channelers who are bound cannot. It was also described as “simple mental trick”)
@9 Aes Sedai did not know that using Oath Rod would shorten their lifespan by more than a half since that knowledge was lost during the Breaking of the World. Furthermore, there are some indicators that they were manipulated by Ishamael (Ba’alzamon) to do so.
@15 Masha:
@@.-@ an @6 I believe not sweating is a simple mental trick but it only works for Channelers, aka passive use of One Power.
I think it more has to do with the level of mind focusing Aes Sedai reach when training at the White Tower due to learning how to work with the One Power. If I recall correctly a few stilled sisters still had that trick at their disposal later in the books.
I think that this book was where I really began to loose faith in Jordan… everybody wanted him to get on with his series, especially after CoT beeing such a letdown and instead he wrote the-unnecessary-prequel…
I love the connection here between Moiraine and Nyneave that you make.
Kah-thurak @17: Small nitpick, but half of the book had already been written (the novella version came out between Path of Daggers and Winter’s Heart), so he only had to write the other half of the novel.
I distinctly remember thinking the wait for KoD was endless, but now with GRRM’s and Rothfuss’s recent publication gaps, I realize just how impatient we were. It was less than 3 years between CoT and KoD.
The Aes Sedai at the founding of the white tower knew that using the oath rod would shorten their lives. One of the Forsaken commented or thought that they must have been desperate to take that step. However, in the intervening years that information was lost or not passed down.
Egwene’s final response to this revelation is not to stop using the oath rod but to allow older Aes Sedai to retire, removing the oaths, and spending the rest of their lives out of the white tower with the Kin. As the Kin ranks members by age this would put former Aes Sedai behind women who were never Aes Sedai. However since there are lots of Kin that fail their tests or are put out of the tower for other reasons the former Aes Sedai will not have to start over at the bottom but more in the middle.
I think I probably enjoyed New Spring more because I came to WoT relatively late (after KoD was already published) so for me, it felt like a fun fanfic (except it was actually canon and written by author!!). If I was a fan when these books were being written, I probably would have been annoyed too. As it is, I consider it an enjoyable read.
FWIW, the original shorter story was originally published in the first Legends anthology, in 1998, between A Crown of Swords and The Path of Daggers. I still think Sylas would have been better off waiting at least one more book (Lord of Chaos) before starting this one now.
Legends is one of the best anthologies I ever read, with New Spring, but also short stories by Stephen King (Dark Tower), Raymond Feist (First Riftwar trilogy), Terry Pratchett (Discworld, witches), a Pern story by Anne McCaffrey, an Earthsea story by Ursula Le Guin and of course George RR Martin’s first Dunk and Egg story (The Hedge Knight).
Great way to get a taste of new writers.
I hope Sylas is able to continue to post reviews for all the books, I have really enjoyed his perspective on the books.
Myself @23:
I still think Sylas would have been better off waiting at least one more book (Lord of Chaos) before starting this one now.
On the other hand, we get to the ‘Pfah!’ ‘s earlier now… ;)
The AS who founded the Tower knew the original use of oath rods, but the Oaths were introduced later.
I remember when this book came out I pre ordered it immediately! I started reading the WoT series in high school 2009-2003 i was lucky enough our library had everything up to book Book 6 winters heart and I read them religiously all 6 within 3 -4 months it wasn’t until 2005 I started ordering the hard back copies and completed the series as they came out. I can’t describe the feeling these books and stories gave me but I wish for that feeling in everyday life, everyday! I can’t wait to see the real life adaption amazon is doing I hope it’s not another Legend of the Seeker Fail.
This isn’t the Lan backstory I wanted, of course. I wanted to see his upbringing, his training in the Blight. (And Isam’s, too.) So it was frustrating when this book barely even gave us any of his memories about that. But I didn’t otherwise dislike it. I found it a refreshing change of scene, cast, and pace, in the middle of the main series, and I loved getting more focus on Moiraine and Siuan, as I especially like Siuan.
This was always one of my favourite Wheel of Time books! I love Moiraine and Lan, so getting a book that was through their eyes was a real treat. I really enjoyed learning more about the Tower, although that may have foreshadowed the endless, and irrelevant, focus on Aes Sedai politicking in later books… Conversely, it felt like things were really happening in this book, whereas the main series felt as if it had slowed to a slog!
Glad Silas ended up reading New Spring and loving his insights and connections!
I still dont understand WHY we are reading this book now????? The short story wasnt written until 2 books form where “read” is and the final novella is like 6 books away….there is so much plot and character stuff that we will discover in the series that will make much more of this make sense and more interesting, did no one at TOR point this out to Sylas>
@14, Joakin B, you’re right. Aes Sedai will do anything, no matter how dysfunctional or even self destructive to look cool and in control. I mean look at how they prefer pretending they refused aid to Malkier to admitting they arrived to late! How crazy is that?